Track T-800CDI Explorer 1E

[Stuart]

Erik sent me an email this morning with this news:

"I would like you to know that we have delivered the First 2 Track T-800CDI 1E model 2010 bikes to the customers. We are very happy with that.
With this e-mail i send you the new Track T-800CDI Explorer 1E picture that we are happy to annonce being available."

Great to see these bikes rolling out now

We wish Erik all the best with his project!

http://www.dieselmotorfiets.nl/

[TedV]

Glad to see they are getting bikes out to customers in Holland.

web site said wait for end of 2010 for sales outside Holland. Maybe I need to keep stalling on getting a project bike together.. Any idea yet on pricing to USA?

[coachgeo]

IMHO it will never make it to the USA. Emissions wont pass.

[TedV]

no emissions check in TN. The conversation at the DMV would go something like this:

"You got a receipt? It match the vin plate? It got 2 wheels? It got headlight and tail light? If it don't got turn signals you best know how ta use yer arms to signal. Give me some money. Now put this tag behind the rear axle, horizontal, not verticle or we'll give you a ticket. You'll get the title in the mail in a week or so. Hold onto this paperwork till you get it. Shoo-wee that thang sounds like my husbands tractor. Now honey, don't get yourself hurt. NEXT!"

I've seen title and tag on road race Aprillia not sold in the US to run the Dragon here localy, just need recipts for everything to prove you own it, where it came from and it's not stolen.

[coachgeo]

no emissions check in TN. ....

as far as I know there is no emissions check on bikes in any state BUT....

Think the way it goes is; an engine manufacture must have each model of their engines tested for emission and it pass before it can be sold in the US. That is why when you buy a diesel engine new... it is listed as being Teer 2 or Teer 3 compliant. Manufactures are all suppose to have any newly manufactured Teer 2 certified engine models redesigned and tested to meet Teer 3 levels by a certain date. Some have already that is why Teer 3 engines exist already. For some reason I think there is a Teer 4 & 5 level to be reached by all engines by certain distant future dates?

again... not sure exactly but think emissions for industrial and vehicle are different though in some states they are pushing legislation that industrial and recreational engines pass similar if not the same tougher level of vehicle emissions standards on a quicker time table than what is required by Federal rule. Which is why you see some engines are listed as Not legal to be sold in CA.

I dont recall exactly but Teer 5 may be what Auto engines must NOW pass before they can be sold in the US.

Another words in a long winded way... I just said that the MB 3cyl 8000tdi has not passed any form of Emmissions in the US therefore it can NOT be sold here rather it be stand alone or attached to a 2 or 4 wheel highway, industrial, recreation vehicle or as an industrial stationary engine.

[Sphere]

How can a 3 cylinder 800cc engine not pass emission tests and Dodge RAMs can? It makes no sense and I doubt it's true.

[coachgeo]

Erik told me he is confident the Track would pass US emissions since it surpassed EU and NL standards

butt... that aside... small industrial 3cyl engines have no emissions equipment on them and they are not going to put them on there till they are forced. Putting it on early drives their cost above their competitors who plan to keep cost low by just squeaking by the lower (non vehicle) emission standards. So doing the right thing in this case could well out price them right out of the market.

Now the Track though is starting with a 3cyl engine made for the vehicle market by MB.

[Sphere]

Well according to the license plate of the early models, it was registered as a home-built type, which in Holland means: no emissions test. I wouldn't know about the new types, the license plates hardly appear on photographs.

[bhtooefr]

IIRC, US emissions standards for 2010 motorcycles are comparable to those for 1995 cars, when above 150 cc.

So, seeing as the Smart diesel engine was sold in a Canadian car in 2006, and IIRC their emissions standards weren't far off of ours at all... I don't think there'll be any problem with emissions, assuming they can afford the testing.

[Sphere]

As read on a Dutch forum, apparently there's plans to limit the amount of L-type vehicles (mopeds, motorcycles and related). For motorcycles, they would be reduced from 1000 to 50, EU-wide. Doesn't really sound like good news for EVA, unless they will switch away from individual type approvals.

http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/ ... 542_en.pdf

pages 49 and 86

[coachgeo]

...So, seeing as the Smart diesel engine was sold in a Canadian car in 2006, and IIRC their emissions standards weren't far off of ours at all... I don't think there'll be any problem with emissions, assuming they can afford the testing.

Erik; owner-designer of Track Motorcycle told me he has no interest now in the American Market and can not see having any interest in the future either.

[coachgeo]

occasionally; ok.... rairly my timing is good. musta been a few minutes ago when I came acro this new Track vid. It was posted literly less than a minute prior to my finding it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlznktgv568&feature=sub

BTW- what does he say.... can anyone translate to English?

[coachgeo]

...So, seeing as the Smart diesel engine was sold in a Canadian car in 2006, and IIRC their emissions standards weren't far off of ours at all... I don't think there'll be any problem with emissions, assuming they can afford the testing.

Erik; owner-designer of Track Motorcycle told me he has no interest now in the American Market and can not see having any interest in the future either.

Was contacted by Erik the other day. Seems his heart is softening. He is lightly seeking a USA buyer willing to go thru the ins and outs of importing a bike into the US. He see's it as a way to test market the bike here.

If you are NOT a tire kicker and have real money PM me.

[TedV]

Coach, anyone ever tell you that you are a tease?

checking my bank account...

[beautiful freak]

occasionally; ok.... rairly my timing is good. musta been a few minutes ago when I came acro this new Track vid. It was posted literly less than a minute prior to my finding it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlznktgv568&feature=sub

BTW- what does he say.... can anyone translate to English?

Here's a translation, not to the letter...

Erik says he's the happy owner of the new European brand Track. He says they missed something on the market. Many beautiful bikes on the world but every time he though why this, why that, he calls it evolution. He's going to save us from fuel consuming and lack of driving fun. Then a summary of the properties of the Track, but you already know them. Diesel will be replaced by GTL (Gas To Liquid) in the near future. Development took seven years of witch three years full time. His team consists now of four people. Service is done at AB motoren in Leiden. All parts are made by suppliers only assembly is done at the Track factory. Prognoses for next year is 250 plus Tracks. About seven extra production employees are needed, females preferred because they work more accurately. Dutch government is promoting electrical vehicles. Erik opposes this because the electricity has to come from a plant running on fossil fuel. Other major brands aim at Hydrogen but that not a natural element. The must produce it using electricity. Service only within the Dutch borders so no sale far away at the moment. No dealer network at the moment. Foreign dealer don't ask for margins at the moment they see the Track as a promise for the future. Fuel consumption 1:30 (liter / kilometer) fun, 1:65 possible with less riding fun... Type approval from RDW not at the moment. When a change is made a new approval would be needed costing €100.000 plus. Final remark by Erik: What's behind the North Cape?

Don't know? Maybe Iceland?

Greetings, Tom.