I haven't given it any real hard work but it sure beats manual filling of flat tires or seating tires.

Loud as heck tough and takes a good long time to fill up.
Edit; Maybe couple some of these smaller cheaper units together? Just an idea.
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Well, that idea sure got blown out of the sky.@tetronator - going back to your suggestion, hooking up multiple small cheap compressors in parallel would do nothing to address the basic issues of poor quality and lack of basic safety.
And in my case, it would also immediately trip the main breaker if I tried to run more than 1 compressor at a time.
Also, remember that I need my compressor also for sandblasting and painting, which requires dry (and for the latter, also very clean) air. Hence why I attempted to retrofit my old compressor with an aftercooler and the relevant filters, only to discover it dead on arrival.
To my untrained eye the welds on my units tank look OK, not pretty but OK. Nevertheless, once I am done with it, I completely depressurize it every time to be sure.(*): Beware of substandard welding on the compressor tanks. On cheap compressors, the tanks are NOT certified by a recognized certifying body (ie. ASME(?) in the USA), and NOT built nor tested to any sane margin of safety.
In fact, the vast majority of them wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of actually being certified, if they were submitted for certification in the first place.
I see you concerns and I do agree with not buying anything Chinese if you can help it. (Thats why I don't want a winsun or punsun in my bike).Manufactured by a reputable company, not some Wan Hung Lo chinese crap.
It is very easy to test it yourself. Fill the Tank with water and then pump it up to 1,5 times the pressure it should take. If it blows up you have a little bang from the air you put in for the pressure an midium sise flood.Tetronator wrote: To my untrained eye the welds on my units tank look OK, not pretty but OK. Nevertheless, once I am done with it, I completely depressurize it every time to be sure.
It is very easy to test it yourself. Fill the Tank with water and then pump it up to 1,5 times the pressure it should take. If it blows up you have a little bang from the air you put in for the pressure an midium sise flood.Tetronator wrote: To my untrained eye the welds on my units tank look OK, not pretty but OK. Nevertheless, once I am done with it, I completely depressurize it every time to be sure.
That is actually pretty smart, but I also do not posses copious amounts of money to trow at it. It does still have warranty tough...bf109v7 wrote:It is very easy to test it yourself. Fill the Tank with water and then pump it up to 1,5 times the pressure it should take. If it blows up you have a little bang from the air you put in for the pressure an midium sise flood.Tetronator wrote: To my untrained eye the welds on my units tank look OK, not pretty but OK. Nevertheless, once I am done with it, I completely depressurize it every time to be sure.
Alex
Any visible undercut on the welds is a serious cause for concern. Although minor undercut might not be visible through the (relatively thick) paint coating.Tetronator wrote:To my untrained eye the welds on my units tank look OK, not pretty but OK. Nevertheless, once I am done with it, I completely depressurize it every time to be sure.
Unfortunately, the tanks on compressors do deteriorate significantly with age. Mostly due to internal corrosion at the bottom, especially if they aren't regularly drained. Which, unfortunately, tends to be the rule, rather than the exception. I've personally seen tanks over half full of water (!) on very neglected units - does that officially make it a water tank then?Tetronator wrote:Maybe source some parts from old 'good' compressors and build your own?
bf109v7 wrote:You don't have to expect that it will blow. I testetet about 55 Tanks this way, not one blew. I dont know how close you are when it is presurerised with air, but it can kill you if it blows. But, on the other hand, if it still have Warranty, I would not worry to much.
Alex
Right next to it. So if it goes I'm in trouble for sure. All this talk has made me think of putting it in its own little protective box tough, see about that in the new house.dieseltech wrote:The bottom line is - the safety of the cheap compressors can't be guaranteed. If you absolutely must use one, it's best to either move it to a safe location before firing it up (ie. outside), or, if that's not possible, then try locating it in a separate room, or at least behind a very sturdy partition of some sort. Either way, it is very unwise to stand near such a compressor when it's pressurized and running.
'The machine's specs Most welds look like this. To me, this looks good.dieseltech wrote:Any visible undercut on the welds is a serious cause for concern. Although minor undercut might not be visible through the (relatively thick) paint coating.
Also, keep in mind that with MIG welding (which is how these are made), it is very easy to make a weld that looks beautiful, but is absolutely worthless in terms of structral integrity.
Maybe add 2 pumps? One diesel and one electric less powerful for the low use days.dieseltech wrote:Regarding my initial idea of building a diesel compressor - It sounds great, but... there are 3 main problems with that.
One is portability, or rather the lack thereof.
Another problem is much more trivial. In a one-man workshop, there are always some days when the air usage is very low. Way too low to justify running the diesel all day, in any case. Then what? Go and restart the engine every time the pressure gets too low? Far too much hassle.
Finally, placement. Obviously, running the diesel indoors is out of the question. Permanently placing it outdoors, also out of the question, due to the possibility of theft. Carting the huge and heavy beast in and out of the shop every morning and evening? Meh. Not likely.
So, as it turns out, this is one of the very few instances of a problem where slapping a diesel on it is not a viable long-term solution
That... looks like a serious compressor. Reminds me of one 100 Year old compressor I saw being used in an engine museum...dieseltech wrote:In the end, I've done the measurements: a 90L compressor will just barely fit in my car; the limiting factor is the height. In fact it might be 1-2 cm short of being able to fit through the trunk opening, but I can easily gain that much by changing the compressor's wheels to a smaller size, and/or tilting it sideways a bit during loading/unloading.
The 150L would easily fit as far as the length goes, but it's about 15cm too tall
So it's settled. I'm buying this compressor (from a different, local distributor, of course). ~$600 incl. shipping.
And then I'll install the aftercooler and extra filters on it. Which will void the warranty, but it's not like it really matters after the first few hours of use anyway.
No different with a gasoline engine.dieseltech wrote:Finally, placement. Obviously, running the diesel indoors is out of the question.
Aha, rated at 25% duty cycle... which effectively means VERY light duty.Tetronator wrote:The machine's specs
On my old chinese unit, most welds also look like that. Except for that one heavily undercut bugger, right at the carrying handle - a highly stressed point, due to the long lever arm afforded by the handle, combined with its heavy vibration due to a mechanical resonance.Tetronator wrote:Most welds look like this. To me, this looks good.
Nah, that's not how thieves work. Not around here, at least.Tetronator wrote:Just weigh it down with so much weight no one wants to go to the hassle of stealing it.
Also, rust coat. (Works for Amsterdam bicycles so why not compressors?)
For now I should be able to scrape by with this new single-phase unit. And then, further increasing the compressed air supply becomes a very low-priority issue. Eventually, in the far future, I'd prefer to supplement it with a 270L, 5.5-7.5kW, 2-stage 3-phase compressor, to handle the peak loads. Even just the extra tank capacity would help quite a bit.Tetronator wrote:Maybe add 2 pumps? One diesel and one electric less powerful for the low use days.
I was making a general point here, about running engines inside what is effectively a relatively small, and closed, room.UAofE wrote:No different with a gasoline engine.dieseltech wrote:Finally, placement. Obviously, running the diesel indoors is out of the question.
Well, it was pretty cheap, wasn't expecting miracles. Quality costs money after-all.dieseltech wrote:Aha, rated at 25% duty cycle... which effectively means VERY light duty.Tetronator wrote:The machine's specs
3400rpm @50Hz? Definitely NOT physically possible with an induction motor. Either it uses a universal motor - rather unlikely at such a "low" RPM range though - or the sticker is outright lying (guess which is more likely...)
3000rpm is the theoretical upper limit for induction motors @50Hz. In practice it's about 2600-2800rpm under load, due to electromagnetic slip. 3200-3400rpm would be about right @60Hz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2l-F1ElJMcdieseltech wrote: Also, duct taped already?![]()
Welp, better take some precautions then next time I use it.dieseltech wrote:On my old chinese unit, most welds also look like that. Except for that one heavily undercut bugger, right at the carrying handle - a highly stressed point, due to the long lever arm afforded by the handle, combined with its heavy vibration due to a mechanical resonance.Tetronator wrote:Most welds look like this. To me, this looks good.
It's also in a very difficult welding position, due to the highly acute angle involved (poor design), so no wonder they couldn't get the welding right on that one.
The bead in your photo, if it is 100+% penetration (there's no easy way of checking, unfortunately), looks... passable.
Sounds like my current neighborhood! All-tough here they also do it to buy more weed at the coffeeshops. They're creative enough to steal the copper wires away from above the train tracks. (Those things are live at 1500 Volts.)dieseltech wrote:Nah, that's not how thieves work. Not around here, at least.Tetronator wrote:Just weigh it down with so much weight no one wants to go to the hassle of stealing it.
Also, rust coat. (Works for Amsterdam bicycles so why not compressors?)
If it's valuable, and isn't very permanently attached to the ground (bedrock, preferably), it's quite likely to get stolen eventually. And even if it's very permanently attached, then the detachable bits will be stolen instead. For scrap metal, if not for use/resale value.
A friend of mine once had an old, failed central heating furnace stolen from his own front yard at night, while he was sleeping in the house. It was due to be scrapped the next day - he had just removed it from the basement in the afternoon. Woke up in the early morning, nope, no sign of the furnace. And mind you, that's a big hunk of junk. A few hundred kilos at least. Which, incidentally, means at least a whole crate of cheap wine bottles at the scrapyard...
That sounds awesome!dieseltech wrote:For now I should be able to scrape by with this new single-phase unit. And then, further increasing the compressed air supply becomes a very low-priority issue. Eventually, in the far future, I'd prefer to supplement it with a 270L, 5.5-7.5kW, 2-stage 3-phase compressor, to handle the peak loads. Even just the extra tank capacity would help quite a bit.Tetronator wrote:Maybe add 2 pumps? One diesel and one electric less powerful for the low use days.
As of right now, the situation doesn't really merit investing in a diesel compressor, in any case.
When I can eventually afford to build my own house+workshop, I'll most certainly go big on the electricity. We're talking 3-phase of course, and at least a 32A distribution (main) breaker.
That's good to about 20kW - much more than strictly necessary power-wise, but absolutely needed due to the preponderance of high-power single-phase loads, which cause a heavy phase loading imbalance under realistic operating conditions.
Go big or go home, huh?dieseltech wrote: [rant]
Incidentally, in Poland at least, there's no extra per-month payment incurred for having a ludicrously large breaker rating. The tariff monthly rates are all the same, whether you have an eg. 10A or a 32A distribution breaker installed. It only affects the initial installation costs, to the tune of a few tens of $ per extra kW of load capacity. Which is why it's better to go big right from the start - in the long term, it's vastly cheaper than upgrading (read: replacing) the whole installation X years later on.
There are basically 2 unwritten rules pertaining to sizing distribution breakers, true in most everyday-life instances:
1. However much power you already have available, it will not be enough. If not right away, then usually in a few years.
2. No matter how much (or little) power you think you will need, it will be actually much more than that.
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Happens all the time in Poland (the stealing, not the legal weed, unfortunatelyTetronator wrote:Sounds like my current neighborhood! All-tough here they also do it to buy more weed at the coffeeshops. They're creative enough to steal the copper wires away from above the train tracks. (Those things are live at 1500 Volts.)![]()
That's how it is, really.Tetronator wrote:Go big or go home, huh?




Pfft, challenge accepted.dieseltech wrote:Happens all the time in Poland (the stealing, not the legal weed, unfortunatelyTetronator wrote:Sounds like my current neighborhood! All-tough here they also do it to buy more weed at the coffeeshops. They're creative enough to steal the copper wires away from above the train tracks. (Those things are live at 1500 Volts.)![]()
).
BTW, In Poland, it's 2.5kV DC, IIRC - not that it matters much, since it'll kill you dead in any case, especially since many megawatts of power are routinely available.
All that theft does not help our dying railway infrastructure in the slightest, especially since the vast majority of track is electrified - the diesels are used mostly for shunting yard duty, and to service the small minority of unelectrified track - mostly consisting of stub lines to large factories, etc.
Until fairly recently, it was also very common to hear about stolen rails, manhole covers, and roadside drainage grates. Luckily, these days most scrapyards refuse to accept ony of those 3, and IIRC they have a duty to report that to the police, too. So the thefts of those have mostly stopped.
And the thieves can range from extremely dumb (Darwin Awards, anyone?) - ie. trying to steal copper bus bars from the roof of an electric loco... with the pantographs still raised (result = carbonized husk of a thief found in the morning) - to extremely clever:
Sometime in the last few years, there was a major derailment in Poland, caused by stolen rail. Which is unusual, because the main lines are protected by track circuits, which, in addition to detecting the presence/absence of trains, can also detect broken/missing rails (the protected section then shows up as permanently occupied, blocking the trains from progressing any further).
So what happened? The thieves stole a large length of a single rail, bridging the gap with a length of wire (no doubt also stolen from somewhere!).
Why only one of the rails? Because the other is needed to carry the traction current - which can easily reach a few thousand amps on lines with heavy traffic.
And by bridging the missing length of rail with a length of wire, they defeated the protection afforded by the track circuit, so that nothing seemed out of the ordinary.
I dare say that the only way to top that would be to somehow steal the rails while a train is rolling on them, although I have no idea how such a feat might even be accomplished.
You actually considered building a workshop inside an apartment?dieseltech wrote:That's how it is, really.Tetronator wrote:Go big or go home, huh?
Think about it: right now I'm living in a flat of several square meters. 2 rooms + kitchen + bathroom + corridor. So, if we compare it to a typical freestanding house, it's positively tiny.
Yet, if I wanted to upgrade the wiring for any reason, or install 3-phase power (say, if I wanted an induction cooktop or somesuch), the amount of cost and effort involved would be colossal.
It would require moving ALL the furniture to get access to the walls. Note that some of the furniture is several years old, EXTREMELY large and heavy, and designed to never be moved at all.
Then a lot of demolition work would be necessary to gain access to the old wires, some of which are located in areas which make them positively impossible to remove without risking a major structural failure of the building itself.
Then it'd be necessary to repair the major damage incurred to the walls and ceilings, including re-wallpapering/repainting/retiling them.
And finally, move ALLthe furniture back into place.
All in all, at least 2-3 weeks of backbreaking labor... if you had a few people to help out. So we're talking about a few hundred man-hours, at the very least. Plus the cost of new wiring, cement, plaster, paint, wallpaper, tiles etc...
Absolutely not worth it. IMO it's one of those cases where it's far better to spend the extra money up front, and be set up for pretty much the rest of your life, rather than try to save a few $$$, and end up being royally screwed a couple years down the road.
dieseltech wrote: Going back to the subject of my build, I've made some progress on the connecting rods yesterday.
First, I jury-rigged a suitable jig for accurately and repeatably weighing the connecting rod ends. Luckily, I had all the needed hardware lying around, so it only took a couple of minutes.
Then, I ran some tests to see how good the jig was. And the answer is... very good.
Taking the same rod off, and putting it back on the jig, the measurements were all within +/- 0.1g.
If I was careful to also center the rod laterally on the bearings, the readings were within +/- 0.05g most of the time.
Not bad at all, considering that the jig was built mostly out of random crap lying around the workshop, and that it was positioned on a very flimsy, wobbly table.
In fact, if just placed the other 3 conrods on the table beside the jig, it would throw off the readings by well over a gram, due to the table surface sagging further under the extra load.
Here are a few photos (click to enlarge):
(note to self: do NOT trust the automatic white balance)
Also, for some bizarre reason the photos are overexposed, even though the camera was clearly set up to measure the light level averaged over the entire shot, not just in the center.
Anyway, here you can see the jig in action. That rod has had about 1/2 of the needed material removed, at the time that photo was taken.
If you're wondering why I didn't remove material from the obvious area on the cap first - that's because I separately balanced all the caps+screws first, before tackling the whole rods.
So no grinding the caps anymore at this point.
Also, balancing the big ends of forged rods by grinding only the caps is an inferior method, since it makes the mass unevenly distributed.
And that does make a difference, because of how it moves during operation.
As it turns out, the heaviest rods had the lightest caps, and vice-versa. No surprise there, really, since that's how it was done in the engine factories back in their day.
Because the rods and caps are forged, there will naturally be significant variation in their mass and its distribution.
The heaviest rod is ~0.2-0.5mm thicker (in the as-forged, unmachined areas) than the lightest one.
Finally, in case you're wondering... no, there is no harm in removing material from the rod in such a way. Remember, it is thicker than the lightest rod to begin with. Also, the rods were massively over-designed anyway - especially compared to modern designs.
Also, in fact, there is a net benefit to (lightly!) grinding a rod in this way: the smoother surface means fewer (and smaller) stress risers, which reduces the likelihood of developing cracks, despite the slight decrease in overall cross-section.
And now, a view from a few other angles:
Unfortunately, I was unable to finish balancing the rods yesterday. In fact, I ran out of time before I was able to balance even one rod, since I had other things to take care of before this, and when I began I only had 1-2 hours left.
So, for now, this was more of a proof-of-concept, really. But - in the end - it did, in fact, prove the viability of this approach.
Now, if all goes well, I might be able to finish balancing all 4 rods next Saturday.

Probably because they're far less valuable, by an order of magnitude.Tetronator wrote:Impressive tough, the thieves here have yet to try and steal railroad tracks.
No, not really. If college has taught me anything, it was that any laboratory work involves A. LOT. OF. PAPERWORK. Especially anything related to physics.Tetronator wrote:Nice! Ever thought about a job in analytic physics?
I wouldn't exactly call it an analytic scale, really. At ~$120 and 0.01g accuracy, it's much more accurate than the typical kitchen scale - but still 2 orders of magnitude worse than the one you linked to.Tetronator wrote:I like how your using an analytic scale but you really need to sort the table for a sturdier one,
preferably a granite pillar straight into bedrock but I doubt you've got one of those around.
So the most sturdy one you've got around.
You can also make an air seal box around the entire thing to make it even more accurate.![]()
Well you hit the nail on the head there, I myself am an chemical analyst.dieseltech wrote:No, not really. If college has taught me anything, it was that any laboratory work involves A. LOT. OF. PAPERWORK. Especially anything related to physics.Tetronator wrote:Nice! Ever thought about a job in analytic physics?
And not only paperwork of the dumb, mindless type - no, it's the most EVIL kind of paperwork, the kind that involves doing a lot of calculations.
Before you mention it - even if a computer is used to do ALL the calculations, it still requires entering the data, entering the equations, and presenting the results appropriately (ie. graphs, tables, etc.)
I hate paperwork. Maybe it's because of my experiences with college, but every time I have to fill out any paperwork, I feel like I'm completely wasting my time.
Also, I don't like R&D-type jobs - even if you don't screw enything up on your end, the boss/management might not like your idea, etc. There's just too much that can go wrong.
At work, my boss does a lot of the R&D himself, with a small handful of people helping him out with actually converting his "ideas" into "reality".
And if I were to describe the life of those people... "miserable" is the first term that comes to mind. I would definitely not like to be in their place, especially since they don't really earn much more than the rest of us. Certainly not enough to offset their... predicament.
The way I see it, it's not good to have too much of decision-making authority at work (unless you're the boss, of course - good for you, I guess).
When I was just an assembly worker (NOT an assembly line worker!), it was all nice and dandy: make sure you do your job to an appropriate standard of quality, and Bob's your uncle. I only got into trouble very few times - almost invariably because of some lapse of judgment on my part.
Now, in my current situation, it's not quite as nice overall - even though now I work >95% of the time sitting at a table, in my own room, far from the noise and chaos of the assembly hall.
No, its not an analytic scale but I do not know the proper english name for that specific type of scale.dieseltech wrote:I wouldn't exactly call it an analytic scale, really. At ~$120 and 0.01g accuracy, it's much more accurate than the typical kitchen scale - but still 2 orders of magnitude worse than the one you linked to.Tetronator wrote:I like how your using an analytic scale but you really need to sort the table for a sturdier one,
preferably a granite pillar straight into bedrock but I doubt you've got one of those around.
So the most sturdy one you've got around.
You can also make an air seal box around the entire thing to make it even more accurate.![]()
Air seal box, not needed at the 0.01g range. Not like it would matter anyway - a drop of oil on the rod surface is a good few 0.01 grams. My rod balancing jig is only repeatable to a similar precision, too.
In fact, a 0.1g scale would've been easily enough for balancing engine parts - at least for engines of this size (for the tiny engines used in RC models, 0.1g imbalance is a lot!).
In any case, even if the parts themselves were perfectly balanced, the engine will still vibrate somewhat - piston motion is nonsinusoidal, so there can never be 100% cancellation of reciprocating inertia. Similarly for the connecting rods, since they're a distributed mass; the 2-mass "dumbbell" approximation used for balancing is just that - an approximation.
Combustion forces cause the engine parts to flex in weird and wonderful ways, and that also causes vibrations.
The valvetrain is simply impossible to balance, ever. Luckily, it is of little importance, since the speeds are relatively low, and the masses and displacements are rather small.
Finally, the torque applied to the crankshaft (and thus, also to the engine block) is nonsteady, with a cylinder firing once for every 1/2 revolution, and at low RPMs this will be the dominant vibration component anyway.
Also, any imbalance in power output between cylinders will manifest as additional vibration.The only viable way to address that, is to calibrate the injector opening pressure to be within tight tolerances of each other.
Well, you could also carefully equalize the compression ratio, piston-cylinder clearance and ring gaps between all cylinders, but that's well beyond the point of diminishing returns.
I'm not saying that it's bad to do so - in fact, it's an essential step for getting the most mileage and best performance possible out of an engine - but the cost involved is enormous, and in this case, the benefits would be insignificant.
The pistons, rings and cylinders will easily last > 200 000 km without any noticeable degradation in the smoothness of running (due to differences in amount of blowby present on different cylinders).
Think about it - that's 5x more than the circumference of the freaking planet, and enough to last me several years of riding - pretty much the rest of my life. So what's the point of bothering with any further "gold plating"?
...Or they just did a cost/risk analysis. Eitherway if it does go I'll always be on the losing end if I die, rather be safe than sorry I guess.mark_in_manchester wrote:I was just reading upthread folks comments on air receivers. In the UK, anyone (even Lidl / Aldi) selling this cheap stuff has to bear liability if something blows up - so whoever they buy them off, they must be confident that they're not going to kill anyone.
My lash-up involves an ancient small compressor which can only get up to about 4 bar. I use a rusty old pub gas (CO2) bottle which would once have gone to 2000psi - and which I can still get refilled around here with Argoshield to 1000psi. i don't think 60psi is going to trouble it, though to be fair it is a little small. Perhaps I should pair it up - I have a few.
cheers
M
Well, there is a small problem. Assuming the receivers are actually tested to their rated test pressure, that itself guarantees that it won't fail in operation - for a fair while, at least.mark_in_manchester wrote:I was just reading upthread folks comments on air receivers. In the UK, anyone (even Lidl / Aldi) selling this cheap stuff has to bear liability if something blows up - so whoever they buy them off, they must be confident that they're not going to kill anyone.
Quite likely.Tetronator wrote:...Or they just did a cost/risk analysis.
Oh yeah, those are quite bulletproof. Perhaps even literally - I don't think a typical handgun bullet could come even close to puncturing one.mark_in_manchester wrote:I use a rusty old pub gas (CO2) bottle (...)
Well... now THAT is getting repeatedly delayed as well. Massively so, in fact.dieseltech wrote: EDIT (@ 15 May):
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In other news: just this morning, my coworkers next door have started building "my" CNC mini-mill. So in a month or two, it should be finished.
















Intercooling is beneficial at every pressure level.dieseltech wrote:6. Intercooling. At this power (boost) level, none is required. The End.
Indeed, it is as you say. It is, in fact, essential for maximizing the power gain that can be extracted from a given setup.UAofE wrote:Intercooling is beneficial at every pressure level.
That has been proven untrue many times over.dieseltech wrote: - increased turbo lag (due to extra system volume)
Tell that to companies that made diesels from the 1960's to the 90's. Not to mention the tens of thousands of turbo/supercharged aircraft developed during WWII.without electronic engine control, it's not possible to utilize it to its full potential.
My point was to maximize EFFICIENCY. Using less energy to make the same amount of power.Therefore, in this particular case, the goal is not to maximize the output power/torque.
Sure there is. You're limiting yourself to that specific make/model of gearbox which you should be searching for disc and plate specs instead.simply because no such clutches/p.plates exist for this engine/gearbox type
Thats a major benefit of W/M injection, mount the tank ANYWHERE! It can be any size as small or large as you like.Then there is the problem of the liquid tank: place it where?
No, it doesn't. Every single mechanical fuel metering system ever made for turbocharged diesels measures only pressure (aneroid).Getting the full benefit out of an intercooler of any kind (including liquid injection "intercooling") requires the fuel delivery limiter to be set according to the charge air density. Not just pressure.
When an intercooler is designed into the system, density doesn't matter because density is already known when intercooler efficiency is factored in.Unfortunately, while the mechanical approach (ALDA compensator on injection pump) can be adjusted to a wide variety of pressure compensation curves as the designer sees fit, it has no amount of compensation whatsoever for the charge air temperature.
That is incorrect. They may be compensated for FUEL temperature (viscosity), but no mechanical injection pump measures or reacts to air temperature, only air pressure.The pump itself is internally compensated for the changing ambient temperatures (to some degree at least)
Clearly you've got a LOT to learn about how injection pumps work. Nothing you said there is reality.A.) if you're willing to accept heavy exhaust smoke on some occasions - sure, go ahead, adjust the ALDA for the "cruising" boost conditions, ie. with the "low" charge air temperature = high charge air density. After the intercooler becomes heat soaked though, the engine will smoke heavily when floored, until the IC can dissipate the extra "soaked" heat, whereupon it will resume "normal" smoke-free operation.
You're liming yourself on that.considering the other limitations of this design, especially the clutch.
Welcome to 2015, some things have been learned in the last 30 years.So yeah, not much point to using an intercooler here. Especially since even the "old good" German engineers said no to this, decades before.
Whatever, I'm not going to force the point here, seeing as turbocharging systems are not really my area of expertise.UAofE wrote:That has been proven untrue many times over.
There's a difference between extracting, say, 99% of the possible benefit, as opposed to, say, only 80%. That is what I meant by "full potential" here.UAofE wrote:Tell that to companies that made diesels from the 1960's to the 90's. Not to mention the tens of thousands of turbo/supercharged aircraft developed during WWII.
Last time I checked, the turbocharger uses "waste" heat energy from the exhaust stream to extract the power to drive the compressor.UAofE wrote:My point was to maximize EFFICIENCY. Using less energy to make the same amount of power.
Sure I do limit myself to this gearbox, because I want to stick with something that works, and which I have based my entire design around.UAofE wrote:Sure there is. You're limiting yourself to that specific make/model of gearbox which you should be searching for disc and plate specs instead.
OK, you clearly don't realize how a modern "constant clamping force" pressure plate works. I'm not even going to bother arguing about this, since I would be just wasting my time.UAofE wrote:In addition, you can always machine the flywheel to mount the pressure plate lower to increase clamping force.
Sure, make it very tiny, so it runs out in a minute or two of boost. Great design for street use, on a touring bike no less.UAofE wrote:Thats a major benefit of W/M injection, mount the tank ANYWHERE! It can be any size as small or large as you like.
Which is exactly what I have stated before.UAofE wrote:No, it doesn't. Every single mechanical fuel metering system ever made for turbocharged diesels measures only pressure (aneroid).
Except that it isn't at all constant. Two words: Heat soak.UAofE wrote:When an intercooler is designed into the system, density doesn't matter because density is already known when intercooler efficiency is factored in.
True. Except that the fuel temperature has a proportional relation to the ambient temperature, which is exactly my point here.UAofE wrote:They may be compensated for FUEL temperature (viscosity), but no mechanical injection pump measures or reacts to air temperature, only air pressure.
Actually, I have very little more left to learn about them, from a practical standpoint. As far as inline and distributor pumps are concerned, anyway - I don't care about any of that PD or CR nonsense.UAofE wrote:Clearly you've got a LOT to learn about how injection pumps work.
Paddle (4 puck) clutches. Also known as "on-off clutches".UAofE wrote:You're liming yourself on that.
Seriously, I found this in 20 seconds of googling: http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/ ... uct=161402
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panther-Paddle- ... 27be919d93
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TORQUE-FAST-ROA ... 0892059423
Worthless. My new (OEM-spec) Sachs clutch can easily handle considerably more than +25%, as I've already established from direct measurements.Made for use with a standard or mildly modified engine - where torque and engine revs are 20-25% up from standard.
Yes. Unfortunately, most of them irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, or even positively harmful:UAofE wrote:Welcome to 2015, some things have been learned in the last 30 years.